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AMD Moves To 65nm

Tue Dec 5, 2006 7:00:17 AM #29569 Perm Link

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Re: AMD Moves To 65nm

Tue Dec 5, 2006 2:11:22 PM #29590 Perm Link

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what amd needs is actually having a cpu that can match core 2 duo Smile

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Tue Dec 5, 2006 6:25:47 PM #29617 Perm Link

One step done, next step: to take back the CPU crown Wink

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Tue Dec 5, 2006 7:21:34 PM #29621 Perm Link

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Seriously. This will help keep AMD back in the game.

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 9:11:51 AM #29760 Perm Link

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Remember what we were talking about last night Aron? AM2 is looking to be in my future somewhere. Maybe.

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 11:33:29 AM #29767 Perm Link

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am2, well, isn't amd coming out with am3, the 1207 pin socket. i think am2 is dead Smile

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 2:09:42 PM #29769 Perm Link

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AM2 just came out this year!

This is gonna piss me off if they switch this soon. Talk about screwing over your customers.

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 2:42:15 PM #29777 Perm Link

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AM2 just came out this year!

This is gonna piss me off if they switch this soon. Talk about screwing over your customers.

You do realize the AM2 was just AMDs way to convert to DDR2 right?

Are you really surprised that the AM2 will have one short lifespan? In fact one of the shortest lifespans for a CPU socket.

AMD can't compete with Intel's Core2Duo when the AM2 is not new technology, and the Core2Duo is, since its just S939 CPUs with a DDR2 memory controller strapped on a different socket. If you wanna stay with AMD wait for the AM2+ or better yet the AM3.

Not to bash AMD as I like them more than Intel but the AM2 is a waste no matter how you look at it. If the AM2+ or AM3 doesn't bring anything to the table its a Core2Duo upgrade for moi.

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 3:17:42 PM #29782 Perm Link

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I guess am2 is their way of testing their pu with ddr2. I think it's pretty much dead. I am not even sure how long would intel hold onto the socket 775 (it's been for a few years now). Not sure if intel has any plan to kill it and release new socket (which intel is quite well known for) with newer cpu after quad core. As for things stands now, I think Intel could hold onot 775 probably for at least a year or two since it will take amd sometime to catch up with the intel's lead.

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Fri Dec 8, 2006 5:18:48 PM #29783 Perm Link

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Intel will be releasing a new socket as soon as they integrate the memory controller into the CPU. This is why AMD needed to change sockets. AM2 is only for DDR2 support as was said and any other change will bring about a change of socket.

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Sat Dec 9, 2006 11:00:15 PM #29822 Perm Link

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AMD is already in deep water but when Intel adapts an onboard memory controller AMD will drown without a flotation device to save them.

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Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:58:13 AM #29827 Perm Link

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Don't count AMD out. It's a big underdog. It may not have hte power of Intel but it does bring some innovation to the table. Don't forget they also got ATI, which maybe able to help bring other new ideas.

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Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:33:30 AM #29831 Perm Link

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Not really. AMD has Hypertransport which Intel refuses to use. This is partly why AMD's multicore CPUs scale well as opposed to Intel's. AMD will start to implement generic vector processing units (as a response to taking over ATI) on their multicore CPUs and will extend the x86 ISA to include these new functions. Once this is done, standard graphics abstraction layers will emerge and the industry will be able to compete on every platform.

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Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:08:09 PM #29849 Perm Link

Oh don't get me wrong as I am not saying AMD is screwed; its the fact that they have to battle the Core2Duo, and Quad2duo chips and that their new 4x4 CPUs bombed didn't help them at all.

Since there is no point for AMD to battle it out in the dualcore the quadcore or whatever they have in the works would be their next plateau to accomplish. Since they already have dualcore CPUs, why battle the same fight when you can go to the next level right.

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